ud6.6:0.1Heartfelt Sayings 6.6
ud6.6:0.2Followers of Various Other Religions (3rd)
ud6.6:1.1So I have heard.
ud6.6:1.2At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.
ud6.6:1.3Now at that time several ascetics, brahmins, and wanderers who followed various other religions were residing in Sāvatthī, holding different views, beliefs, and opinions, relying on different views.
ud6.6:2.1There were some ascetics and brahmins who had this doctrine and view:
ud6.6:2.2“The self and the cosmos are eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile.”
ud6.6:3.1Others held views such as the following, each regarding their own view as true and others as silly.
ud6.6:3.2“The self and the cosmos are not eternal.”
ud6.6:4.2“The self and the cosmos are both eternal and not eternal.”
ud6.6:5.2“The self and the cosmos are neither eternal nor not eternal.”
ud6.6:6.2“The self and the cosmos are made by oneself.”
ud6.6:7.2“The self and the cosmos are made by another.”
ud6.6:8.2“The self and the cosmos are made by both oneself and another.”
ud6.6:9.2“The self and the cosmos have arisen anomalously, not made by oneself or another.”
ud6.6:10.2“Pleasure and pain are eternal, and the self and the cosmos.”
ud6.6:11.2“Pleasure and pain are not eternal, and the self and the cosmos.”
ud6.6:12.2“Pleasure and pain are both eternal and not eternal, and the self and the cosmos.”
ud6.6:13.2“Pleasure and pain are neither eternal nor not eternal, and the self and the cosmos.”
ud6.6:14.2“Pleasure and pain are made by oneself, and the self and the cosmos.”
ud6.6:15.2“Pleasure and pain are made by another, and the self and the cosmos.”
ud6.6:16.2“Pleasure and pain are made by both oneself and another, and the self and the cosmos.”
ud6.6:17.2“Pleasure and pain have arisen anomalously, not made by oneself or another, and the self and the cosmos.”
ud6.6:18.1They were fighting, quarreling, and disputing, continually wounding each other with barbed words:
ud6.6:18.2“Such is Truth, such is not Truth!
ud6.6:18.3Such is not Truth, such is Truth!”
ud6.6:19.1Then several mendicants robed up in the morning and, taking their bowls and robes, entered Sāvatthī for alms.
ud6.6:19.2Then, after the meal, when they returned from almsround, they went up to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and told him what was happening.
ud6.6:23.1Then, understanding this matter, on that occasion the Buddha expressed this heartfelt sentiment:
ud6.6:24.1“Folk are fixated on the I-maker,
ud6.6:24.2which is tied up with the other-maker.
ud6.6:24.3There are some who do not realize this,
ud6.6:24.4they do not see the dart.
ud6.6:25.1But when they see this dart,
ud6.6:25.2they do not think, ‘I make it’,
ud6.6:25.3nor ‘another makes it’.
ud6.6:26.1These folk are caught up in conceit,
ud6.6:26.2tied by conceit, shackled by conceit.
ud6.6:26.3Vehemently defending their views,
ud6.6:26.4they don’t escape transmigration.”